got your back, jack. bitches be crazy

3 parts for you today. All based on the quote "Got your back, Jack. Bitches be CRAZY!". Brownie points for recognising xP.

Table of Contents
Part 1 - Saj being awesome
Part 2 - My attempt at being awesome
Part 3 - The controversial part that people might get pissed off at but read anyway, just so they can get pissed off and express their views.


Part 1


Saj (disgusted tone): And those chicks, I swear they all either wear short shorts or yoga pants
Jeff: What's so bad about yoga pants?
Saj: They're pretty bad when you can tell they obviously do not do yoga
Jeff: *respect*

Part 2


I was trying to be witty on Formspring when I answered a question:
What inspires you and why?
And I answered that,
Girls at their best and worst inspire lots of stuff.
The piddly amount of songs not about girls is a tribute to this.

Wow guys think about girls a lot.

All the bloody songs are like really positive like "my girl's the best oooh yeah never wanna let her go, I want this to never end, just like a mobius strip woooo. She should strip like a mobius strip because she's also very hot. Let's have sex now!" or some angry emo shit like "fuck you bitch, it hurts so bad, like a sharp stick stuck into my foot, and then I stacked it and the sharp stick also stabbed into my chest. It hurts so bad in my heart."

Anyways this is the first time since forever that I've actually had no-one on my mind. It's been such a long time. You know how it's "don't miss the water till the well runs dry", but like the other way. It's like "never realised how thirsty you are until you reach a well". And even then it's not correct. It's not like it's not fun being involved or trying to get involved with someone. It's just different.

So the correct saying would be "Didn't realise how good Sprite tastes after you've been drinking lots of Coke." And vice versa when you switch back again.

Part 3


Why does the argument "swear words are directed at women" even exist?
TRIGGER ALERT if swearing, especially ones targeting men, women, LGBT, racial slurs, offend you. Read more to continue.


While I do not ignore obvious slurs against women such as cunt, bitch, slut, whore, etc, it is not fair to ignore slurs against men such as dickhead, wanker, faggot, douchebag, pindick, etc. that do very much so exist.

Now instantly you may go "but the one's against men are so much less offensive". And I ask why. Why would the ones against women be "more offensive"? Is it because these certain combinations of syllables that become slurs against men are less harsh to the ears than the sounds devised to slur women?

And the slurs from both sides are about sex. One can argue "cunt" objectifies a woman by her vagina, but then so would "dick" or "dickhead". "Bitch" can be the random one that doesn't make sense, like "douchebag". Though I think douchebag can allude to one's inability to copulate. ANYHOWS, "slut" and "whore" refer to a woman's promiscuity (shameful), while "wanker" and "pindick" refers to a man's impotence (also shameful).

Now "faggot" is a special one that isn't really that offensive to straight men. It's just a general no-no word because it's wrong to use that word because of the gay community who might overhear or something. Kinda like the word "dyke" that people don't really like to use that much. Hell, it might not even be that offensive to the gay community but there definitely is a social conscience that reflects the tension around the topic.

So does it depend on the receiving party and how PC it is to diss that party? Words themselves do not hold power to shock. It needs a speaker and a listener. So you can, however, allow your interpretation of the word to overpower. Like if a two guys were joking around and one calls another a cunt, there's no reason that a nearby female should get offended. But she does and really, it makes no sense.

It's not like (to my knowledge), cunt has any connotations apart from meaning "vagina". Like, I can understand why "faggot" would offend surrounding parties, because homosexual relationships is still a sensitive spot in society. But seriously cunt doesn't mean anything except vagina. If anyone can explain to me why a guy calling another guy a cunt is offensive to a nearby woman, please explain.

Similarly, why is "nigger" so fucking offensive? It's a 2 syllable sound and if it didn't make some bad choices early in it's career, "nigger" might've ended up being the name of some food. But it fucked up and now it is a massive racial slur. I don't even know which party finds it more un-PC. It seems like black people don't mind calling each other niggers, but when another person from a different bckground uses the same term, they are being derogatory. And people from other backgrounds seem to condemn the word more than seems necessary.

And I'm not blaming black people for making a mountain out of a molehill, or other backgrounds from being inherently racist (depending on which way you want to see it). Similarly, I'm not blaming women for pulling more offense out of certain words, nor am I saying men are needlessly aggressive when using certain words.

I think it's just the result of being different. There's just that barrier of difference that make people think "oh fuck, if I say the wrong thing I'm gonna piss him off". This attitude goes in a feedback loop to the minority party, who think "yeah, these people know that ___ is offensive. If they utter those syllables I will be pissed".

Perfect equality is somewhat ridiculous. Instead of trying to point out the differences that exist and how to get rid of them, why don't we learn to laugh off the ones not used with venemous intent? Like going on Cadet courses, it's hard not to notice that I'm the only Asian kid there. And hence people like doing the "small eyes" thing. But they don't do it out of personal hate for me, or hate for Asians in general. It's for lulz and who really gives a fuck. Once you start getting bitchy about it you'll obviously end up getting ostracised, not because I'm Asian (or in lieu with the main post, not because you're a girl), but because you're a person who gives a shit about small things. And people don't like petty people.

I found on this article that men are less likely to see the same action as offensive compared to women. Hence when told to write a diary of offences (like blocking someone off, shouting, etc. Minor offences, we are talking about. Not like fucking.. crimes or anything.) committed and the ones that you apologised for, women came up with more offences than men, and hence more apologies than men. But when comparing percentages of apologies compared to offences, men and women scored roughly equally. I don't believe that women are worse people than men and hence commit more offences - it's just that women are more likely to notice small things as offences, whether they are the culprit or the victim.

Now this works in 4 directions. Allow me to explain why this article may explain the startling difference in shock value of equally gender-slanted words.

Man X slurring Man Y

So both of them do not find cussing too offensive. Perhaps X has a high threshold for when it's too far, but Y also has a higher threshold for taking offense. So while those words may invoke offence, Y is less likely to give a shit.

Men slurring women

Possibly the most powerful driver behind the super-offensiveness of female-slanted words. The man will have a too high threshold of what is acceptable, and the woman's is too low. Put these together, and one is like "why are you so rude" and the other is like "what the hell, suck it up". Chaos ensues as both parties get more frustrated with the gap in values.

Women slurring men

According to the model, women are less likely to slur in the first place as they will be afraid to offend. Couple this with a man's inability to give a shit, and you have ineffective swear words. Compare this to men - men are also afraid to offend: they just don't think certain things are offensive. And I can relate to this and I'm going to have a hard time convincing people who are more sensitive to slurs that it's possible to just ignore it. But anywhos the woman will hold back and the guy wasn't going to give a shit anyway. Hence the argument is meh.

Women slurring women

Seems to happen a lot in movies. Don't know if it happens in real life. Just like guys don't act the way they do in movies and TV shows, girls, sadly, do not have naked pillowfights at sleepovers.
Man I don't know how women slurring women works. In our school it reflects the "don't wanna offend and therefore I don't offend" model, where people get along quite amiably. On the surface, at least.
But the media portrayal of girls who don't like each other goes along "shit bitch cunt slut whore go suck your boyfriend's dick, then his best friend's, then his best friend's dogs. Because I hate you and express my spite through suggesting that you like to give blowjobs to random objects."
If someone has a better view of how women actually work, I would like to know.


And so ends a long post. There's around a 30% chance that you're somewhat annoyed by what I've said. Maybe it's closer to 15%. Anyhoos *flame shield ready*

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

0% annoyed. don't think your posts are ever annoying.

for me, women don't swear with other women. because firstly, swearing, is only sometimes funny, depending on the moment. othertimes, it is unnecessary to add a swear word in a sentence. adding a swear words would just draw attention to the strangeness of the sentence.

We may use cuss words in a big bitch fight with other girls (if you have lots of hate)

The only times we( or just me) use them is with close friends. like when they do something mean to you or others yo ugo, "OH you bitch!" or "whatta douchebag!" or "F U!" but us girls do none of that "you cunt go suck on... " you get what i mean. unless we're super angry.

hope that helped

Anonymous said...

>If anyone can explain to me why a guy calling another guy a cunt is offensive to a nearby woman, please explain.
I find it offensive that you associate my vagina with a person you are trying to insult.

jwhero said...

@anon1
Yeah. I like how girls tend to view swearing as "unnecessary" while guys tend to think "it's just words, who cares". It's quite interesting

@anon2
I find that flawed because in actuality it has nothing to do with your vagina personally.
It might have to do with vaginas in general, but really, when people use the word "cunt" they hardly link it to vaginas first. They don't go "you cunt, just like a vagina". Just like people don't use "bitch" and think "just like a female dog, you are".
By similar logic, I should feel offended when someone calls another a "dick" or "dickhead". But I don't because it's definitely not my penis on his forehead.

Anonymous said...

it's just words, true, but it is unnecessary in terms of, it doesn't naturally occur to us to add swear words into everyday convo. if we do, it's forced and unnatural yeah so ur kinda right.

cloudier said...

"Once you start getting bitchy about it you'll obviously end up getting ostracised, not because I'm Asian (or in lieu with the main post, not because you're a girl), but because you're a person who gives a shit about small things. And people don't like petty people."

really? i would think that you would end up ostracised because you didn't conform. what if someone genuinely felt hurt, even though they knew the speaker said it in a joking manner without venomous intent?

jwhero said...

It's not that difficult to assertively tell someone that something truly offends you. If it's a big enough issue that the victim of the joke may feel offended, then the joker, unless a total douche, is willing to accept that they have caused offence.

And mebbe I'll post later on this (including an anecdote!) but it's tone of voice that is more important than your actual words. You can say something textbook like "I am not comfortable with these jokes, could you please stop?", but it's your tone of voice that defines whether you are being petty, whether you're rebelling because you don't like the joker, or if you're deeply offended.

cloudier said...

yes it's true that it's not difficult to say so when you're offended. it seems like the appropriate response to possibly insulting language is to grow some balls either way: stop letting the words be insulting to you or have the anger to say something. i suppose bitchy implies a petty tone of voice?

jwhero said...

Yeah, if I may interpret your "grow some balls" to mean "being unpetty".

And yes in my context, "bitchy" is the exact opposite of said "balls-growing" =P

~cloudier said...

oh yeah i just remembered that david posted a post about the word fuck and how irreplaceable it was here http://lufx.blogspot.com/2011/10/in-which-i-bemoan-certain-poverties-of.html

here's a taster to see if it's the kind of stuff you like:
"Consider this sentence:
"I didn't study for the test; I'm fucked."

The thing about the latter half of that sentence is that it's just so neat and tidy. You encaspulate so much into that space of the phrase "I'm fucked", because of the nature of the word "fucked." Just go on and try to replace that particular piece of invective with anything else, it just seems that "fucked" as an adjective has a certain... elegance* to it no other adjective can match. There doesn't seem to be any other word in the English language you can use in place of "fucked"."

jwhero said...

Is this a David that we know?

And just to confirm - this has nothing to do with the post or the comments, right?

It was a good read and I think interesting how certain swear words ("fuck" as he described, "bitch" to mean whine, "shit" as a general noun, etc etc) have morphed to have their own unique meaning after long hard hours of overuse and hence desensitisation. And then people going "we should attach a proper meaning to this sound" and a 2nd-generation swear word is reborn :L

~cloudier said...

Er David Xiong. And I thought it was somewhat related since it was also talking about insulting words.

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